Re-thinking Pastoral Authority

 

Every member of clergy, and every lay person at some point, has to come to clarity on the issue of pastoral authority. Where does it start and where does it end? If pastoral authority is not recognized, we nullify the structure of the church that our Lord, its founder, set in place. If no boundaries are observed in pastoral authority, we’ll find ourselves mindlessly following every wind of doctrine and would have reduced our salvation to nothing more than a game of “Simon Says.”

God has clearly called us to love Him with all our minds, and that means we are required to confront hard topics, study, and intelligently come to a conclusion on the matter. In short, we are called to be thinking Christians. For far too long we have accepted folk theology and tradition as law. Certainly there is a place for tradition, as we study what the fathers of the faith have to say on the issue we wrestle with today. Yet, more and more it seems we have elevated those with titles above or superior to the rest of the Body. Somewhere in church history we seem to have confused the titles Pastor/Bishop/Elder with King/Lord/Crown. We seem to intertwine the words ‘servant’ and ‘sovereign.’

Those of us who have grown up in the church and/or find ourselves a part of an abusive church often become desensitized and explain away over-extensions of authority or spiritual abuse as the will of God. We are often waiting for God to tell us it’s time to leave. Do you believe that spiritual abuse is real? Why or why not.

Spiritual Abuse is rampant, so much so that there are a number of books and other resources for those in need of recovery. Not quite sure whether you’re a victim? Chances are that if this article makes you really uncomfortable, you are. To take a test from TOXIC FAITH by Steve Arterburn and Jack Felton, click here

Now Jesus turned to address his disciples, along with the crowd that had gathered with them. “The religion scholars and Pharisees are competent teachers in God’s Law. You won’t go wrong in following their teachings on Moses. But be careful about following them. They talk a good line, but they don’t live it. They don’t take it into their hearts and live it out in their behavior. It’s all spit-and-polish veneer. Instead of giving you God’s Law as food and drink by which you can banquet on God, they package it in bundles of rules, loading you down like pack animals. They seem to take pleasure in watching you stagger under these loads, and wouldn’t think of lifting a finger to help. Their lives are perpetual fashion shows, embroidered prayer shawls one day and flowery prayers the next. They love to sit at the head table at church dinners, basking in the most prominent positions, preening in the radiance of public flattery, receiving honorary degrees, and getting called ‘Doctor’ and ‘Reverend.’ Don’t let people do that to you, put you on a pedestal like that. You all have a single Teacher, and you are all classmates. Don’t set people up as experts over your life, letting them tell you what to do. Save that authority for God; let him tell you what to do. No one else should carry the title of ‘Father’; you have only one Father, and he’s in heaven.” Matthew 23:1-9

You should also read 1 Peter 5: 1- 6 and 1 Thess. 2:7-8 and Mark 10: 42-45

Being a part of the church for the last twenty-eight years and being in ministry for at least the last sixteen, I have both experienced spiritual abuse first-hand and stood witness while it took place. I have seen pastors tell people when they could and couldn’t get married or divorced. I’ve witnessed pastors demand the tithe or else. I’ve witnessed others use the pulpit to get the last word or hurl insults. I’ve heard it stated that when the pastor speaks, you might as well accept it as if God himself was speaking to you. I’ve seen too many victimized to stay silent. I don’t know what you feel reading this, but for me it hurts. The reality is that people leave broken and often times never make it back. Talk to me. Have I gone too far? Have I said too much? Or is time for us to get things back in biblical order? Click here to respond unless, of course, you need permission from your pastor… Lighten up if you’re not laughing.

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32 thoughts on “Re-thinking Pastoral Authority

  1. I have heard leaders claim to have fatherly authority in people’s lives, claim to be God incarnate, and express utter dismay when a member disobeyed them. My mother once visited a church with a friend and sat there confused while all the songs of praise were directed at the pastor. They thanked him rather than God for everything. I visited a church for a concert once where praise and worship came to a grinding halt mid-chorus and trumpets suddenly blasted while everyone rose to their feet. The Second Coming of Christ? No. The pastor had finally arrived (late!) for service. I’m not kidding.

    Of course there are less blatant displays. There is a term for the exercise of unnatural control over another — witchcraft. Whenever anyone or anything takes the place of God in our lives, we are said to be guilty of idolatry. We need to be so careful that we maintain every relationship with a healthy balance. A controlling spouse, a controlling boss, a controlling pastor… all very bad news.

    Balance is so key. We are to respect and love those who are called to teach and guide God’s people. At the same time, let’s be very clear about what teaching and guidance include. The Bible clearly says not to lord over the people. No matter how passive aggressively it may be done, it’s not right.

  2. Another excellent article. Pastors have systematically twisted scripture so intently that they’ve purposely distorted the concept of spiritual authority (or fatherhood) until it’s almost unrecognizable. Elisha didn’t tell Elijah to call him his “Spiritual Father”, nor did Paul tell Timothy to call him the same.

    Paul did, however, recognize the lack of fatherly oversight in the new church and he exhorted those new to the church to “imitate me” (1 Corinthians 4:15-17) – not to puff up his head, but because he was imitating (and intensly following) Christ.

    I served in ordained ministry for several years, so I understand the importance of spiritual authority, but (especially in the black church) too often pastors make you “submit to them” as an outward sign of the “anointing on their life” instead of displaying the true fruit of the Holy Spirit in their life.

    It’s a blatant “pimp v. h_ _” game, but (unfortunately) it won’t end until God’s people read the Word for themselves and run these clowns out of the pulpit.

    Speaking Truth…
    http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com

  3. I do believe that spiritual abuse is rampant in the church, as I also have seen it first hand… Some people are afraid to make decisions without their Pastors approval, God is Lord of all, and He created us with a will of our own. Some Pastors use the pulpit to intimidate their flock. Pastors are humans just like all of us , so people please don’t make them your God…. Jacquelyn

  4. Excellent point Jacquelyn – the problem is that we do make our pastor’s our gods. I was guilty of that, and I had to repent before the Lord. I got so wrapped up in my “spiritual father” and submitting to his authority, that I began to diminish my true God and His authority. When I returned to my First Love, He began to show me not only the error in my ways, but the errors in my former pastors ways – and the church as a whole.

    My sincere prayer is that the Body seeks Him, not “them”. Jesus became our High Priest so that we could go directly to God through Him. Prayerfully, the Body will bypass these filters and go directly to Him.

    Speaking Truth
    http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com

    • That is exactly what I am experiencing now. I got saved several years ago and have been a member at my current church for 6 years. I have not had any prior in depth experience with the various roles of church authorities. I had begun to look to my Pastor as having to always run things by him to get his opinion. The Lord began to deal with me and showed me that no one deserved that position of being put on a pedestal but Him. So I began to walk on my own. The Pastor would literally not deal with me when I did not obey what he said I should do. He and his wife would ostracize me from their attention and show other people around me attention, so that I could see. It bothered me because my family had always treated me the same way. If I wanted approval and acceptance, I had to do what they said or they ignored me. So, because I didn’t understand(and still really not sure), how I was supposed to respond to them as leaders, I began to just put all my heart, soul, and attention into God. Well, I began to get comments insinutated towards me over the pulpit. God revealed to me some things about the Pastor and his wife, showing me that they are human like me, with faults and should be prayed for and that I should love them unconditionally despite what they were doing. It’s hard but I constantly press to obey. I don’t know what to do because it seems like unless I fall into what they want me to do, then they will not use the gifts that God has given me, for the church. The Pastor has also not counseled with me or really spoke to me in the last 9 or 10 months. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have been praying to ask God to release me from there to move on. Is this even necessary? I feel sometimes at such a disadvantage because everyone in my church has been raised from childhood in a similar setting but I have no such foundation.

  5. How did we get to this place? It’s to the point that preachers and pastors are publicly telling God what He must do! “Gasp!” We seem to still be confused about the authority of Christ and what authority he gave to His disciples.

    “Yet for the most part, there is a hush over the crowd.”

  6. Kwesi – I sincerely believe we got to this point by being consumed by the deisres of our flesh. If you notice, it’s not difficult to find a seat in the churches that teach about repentance of sin and the pursuit of Jesus Christ.

    But you’ve got to get to church an hour early, park 1 mile away, stand in line to get in and out of “churches” that further this heresy that God serves at our beck and call. It literally turns my stomach.

    Our celebratory obsessed culture has caused us to make our local pastor a celebrity – complete with “security/armor bearers” and groupies (those who hang out by the pastors office to “touch the hem of his garment” as one folower told me).

    God will bring His church back into right relationship with Him, whether we like it or not. That’s why He’s exposing those who are expliting Him – it’s up to us to follow Him ot follow them…

  7. Kwesi – I sincerely believe we got to this point by being consumed by the deisres of our flesh. If you notice, it’s not difficult to find a seat in the churches that teach about repentance of sin and the pursuit of Jesus Christ.

    But you’ve got to get to church an hour early, park 1 mile away, stand in line to get in and out of “churches” that further this heresy that God serves at our beck and call. It literally turns my stomach.

    Our celebratory obsessed culture has caused us to make our local pastor a celebrity – complete with “security/armor bearers” and groupies (those who hang out by the pastors office to “touch the hem of his garment” as one folower told me).

    God will bring His church back into right relationship with Him, whether we like it or not. That’s why He’s exposing those who are expliting Him – it’s up to us to follow Him ot follow them…

    Speaking Truth
    http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com

  8. Yes Sir! I’m reading Matthew at present and I find myself wanting to scream because of the similarities that I see between the pharisees then and clergy now. Man this stuff is seriously dangerous. Watch out for the crowd!

  9. I firmly believe that religion is man made, but it is stated that Jesus is a Jew and that is called a religion, but I note that he called some of them hypocrites, the wheath and tears grow together as stated in the Word.
    Most people make their conection to God through a religious organization, please note religious organization, not necessarily ordered by God, but led and directed by man, we must however commend them for speaking His Word.
    There are some people who need the discipline of the organization, but the Lordship! come on now! no one need a man or wo-man to Lord it over them. I certainly don’t for I look to the hills and help comes.
    We should teach the church, the body of Christ, the great commandment, to Love God with everything as well as there neighbor as self, when we learn this and activate it in our lives, (LIVE IT) then the comission will follow.
    Let’s face it most of the organizations are a mess, but the church is seeking truth, something reachable and tangible.
    In short, abuse suck, and should not be tolerated by anyone,from another.

  10. OK, I am late on this one … Please forgive me but it took this long to get permission. I had to call the Pastors Secretary. She then had to get in touch with the Pastor. That took a couple of days before she got back with me. Then I was informed it would be 3 more days before I could get on his calendar. Finally, I was informed that I could respond to your blog but I would need to submit my words to the Secretary who would then forward it to the Pastor for review. After much prayer and fasting, the Pastor would determine whether God wanted me to respond. So after a few more days, I was told that your blogs, Kwesi (o wait, do I have to call you Pastor even though we’re friends) are not of God. I was told that the anointing flows from the head down & we have to respect the Pastor’s authority. My response was, I believe it starts at the top but what do we do about the tons of Pastors who have confused anointing with being prosperous and looking the part. They think members buying them “things”, throwing money at their feet and getting their approval on everything is the rule of “proper” Christianity. Is this a catholic church? As soon as I said these things, I was silenced in the church. Well, at least now I can respond to your blog. LOL

    Much Blessings Kwesi (HAHAHAHAHA)

  11. Anna, I love it. “Abuse sucks! and should not be tolerated by anyone from another.” Well said!

    Rob, You are so crazy! You better not ever call me some Pastor somebody. My mother named me kwesi, isn’t that difficult enough to say? You have me laughing so hard. Thanks man, great one.

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  13. Jesus said in Luke 16:15 – talking to the Pastors, I mean Pharisees, “you are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is destestable in God’s sight.”

    There are some strong similiarities to the Pharisees in Jesus day to the Pastors of our day and I know our Heavenly Father is not pleased with what’s going on in our Church’s today – He’s going to turn it around.

    We’ve given in to our authoritative Pastors because for some of us, when we get saved, he or she is the next best thing to God. Unfortunately – depending on the church/Pastor – this can turn out for the good or the evil.

    We must “study to show ourselves approved to God” and no one else. Most Pastors are elevated and put on a pedestal – a place they have no business being! Unfortunately the way our churches operate (like a business) sets them up and the congregation as well. Most Pastors see themselves as “CEOs” or “Presidents” and they run the church as such. As in corporate america, these positions come wth a sense of accomplishments, arrogance, you feel privileged, and everyone should stand up and clap when you (The Pastor) come in the room – not!

    It saddens my heart and vexed my spirit when I see or hear of cases where Pastors abuse and take advantage of God’s children. I challenge every Christian to read the word of God for him or herself, especially the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). We are called to utimately FOLLOW JESUS, NOT PASTOR SO-AND-SO! God called us to Himself, through Jesus to have a PERSONAL relationship with HIM and not the pastor or anybody else for that matter. Jesus said it best in John 10:16, “I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I MUST BRING THEM ALSO. They too WILL LISTEN TO MY VOICE, and there shall be one flock and one sheperd.” See John 10:27.

    Here’s lies the problem – we are listening to MEN more than we are listening to JESUS! But isn’t he or she a man or woman or GOD??? Okay folks, we’re not living in the old testament days anymore, wake up and smell the gospel! There’s not one man or woman who’s got it like that! When Jesus gave up His life and rose from the grave, He promised us the comforter, the Holy Spirit, that would lead us and guide us into all truth – John 16:13.

    Let me just sum this up as to why the church institution is falling apart at the seam…SIN. The sin of not preaching and teaching Jesus and the Kingdom of God – this is New Testament living my brothers and sister – where you have the POWER and AUTHORITY in the Holy Spirit to do whatever it is that the LORD Jesus wants you to do to advance HIS KINGDOM, PREACH THE GOOD NEWS, AND DESTROY THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL.

    I’ll leave u with this – Ephesians 5:27 “husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her HOLY, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her (THE CHRUCH) to Himself as a RADIANT CHURCH, WITHOUT STAIN OR WRINKLE OR ANY OTHER BLEMISH, BUT HOLY AND BLAMELESS.

    • “We are called to utimately FOLLOW JESUS, NOT PASTOR SO-AND-SO! God called us to Himself, through Jesus to have a PERSONAL relationship with HIM and not the pastor or anybody else for that matter.” – Tony

      Wow! You’re as daffy as taffy! We humans are supposed to have a personal relationship with GOD? That ain’t New Testament; it’s new age. Besides, you’re ignoring Hebrews 13:17: “Obey them that have the[?] authority over you”. And “them” are the Pastors etc. They know what’s best, just as King James & all the other ‘Divine right of Kings’ potentates did/do. Yes, the Bible says we will each be judged for our actions — every word, in fact — not for our profound, albeit blind, obedience to seminary graduates and self-appointed parrots. But that (somehow) doesn’t mean we can’t take the easy road of conformity and tradition-preservation. Yes, Paul wrote about the followers of him v. the followers of Apollos[sic] v. the followers of _______ as wrong, but that was the primative church!!! We’re post-modern! We’re 21st century! We’re Americans, (well perhaps not all of us). We are ELITE! Human still, but technologically advanced! He is God, still, of Abraham and co.
      OK, enough satire and species aggrandizement. Here’s the facts, according to the Bible and history (as can be read and understood by a 10-yr, so….). In the days of Moses, God wanted a direct relationship with the Hebrews, (Israelites & Jews). They drew back in fear, prefering to have a man mediate. IIRC, this was the origin of the veil between the Holy of Holies the rest of the tabernacle/temple — the human area. Later, the people wanted a king, a human ruler between them and Him. (Ever look at the list of negatives God warned them such an arrangement would introduce? Uncannily prophetic!). This was after the judges, and was apparently based on fear and the fact that neighborhing nations were kingdoms and the people wanted not only middlemen but conformity to the world M.O. In any case Saul, David and 3-4 centuries of Kings followed — eventually in two nations, (Israel & Judea). Jesus is crucified and the Temple veil rips; man has full — and individual — access to God. Of course, man keeps Kings & Priests, giving all who prefer Gods’ wishes a high priority a very bad time. Constantine comes along, has a vision compete with a loud “In my name, go forth and conquer!” and the masses essentially drop “Return evil with good” for continued existence and conversion by coercion. The cathedrals become marketplaces, Luther objects and ‘Sola Scriptura’ gets some air time.
      And here we are. Prayer requests personally attended to by the Lord High televangelist-of-choice with the correct free-will offering. Your right to keep your personal faith – if it’s properly traditional, PC, profitable and meets with our approval. Sola scriptura is back in the warehouse, the veil has been patched and the church has been restored to its historic role as an enforcement/military arm of government. God has been re-assigned to his correct nationality and even bound to His political party.
      Come to think of it, Tony, now is the only/best time that we can have a true, personal , relationship with OUR god, eh?
      “Those who don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it [again!].” Paraphrasing of someone famous who was good at pointing out the obvious truth so it could be ignored and repeated. Yet again.

  14. Welcome Tony, good to see you here.

    I have to say you sound fired up brother. You know I understand. I will clarify that we are by no means saying that all Pastors are out of control. However there are way to many Pastor gods and way too much foolishness proceeding out of the church.

  15. @ Tony –

    Wow…I thought I had a lot on my mind 🙂

    You are 100% correct. The problem is that we (the sheep) look for a filter so that we can “hear from God”, thus we elevate “his mouth piece” (as my former pimp used to call himself) as a god in our lives.

    All of this negates Christ’s sacrifice on the cross – and his rendering “temple worship” unneccessary.

    Anytime we want to put our resident “mand of Gawd” on a pedastal, then we need to close our eyes and imagine our Savior hanging on a tree for the redemption of our souls back to the Father.

  16. I first want to commend you, Kwesi, for being and effective watchman and sounding the alarm. Ironically, I’m a fourth generation P.K. (Preachers Kid) and the foundation of my ministry is centered around ‘abuse and victimization’; which I experienced first hand by my father/former pastor.

    The sad reality is that, ” Hurt people, hurt people.” and for those of us singing and reciting, “he whom the Son sets free is free indeed”, sitting in the pew or the pulpit, and are being spiritually molested, raped and victimized…..don’t have a clue what ‘real liberty’ feels or looks like. And to no avail, is it solely our fault…”we perish for the lack of knowledge”….and it would benefit us to realize that this cultic religious climate is one of power and control; which produces victimization. However, I believe that in this new paradigm shift, God is unveiling an atmosphere of power and love; which produces healing/wholeness.

    Love. The essence of God. and if you can’t indentify love in those whom you submit yourself to…..it’s time to shift! Ashe’!

    Shalom.

  17. Kira,

    Thank you, I too am a preachers kid and I grew up thinking the foolishness was normality. Sorry you had to endure the pain. I’m so glad you have chosen to be responsible for yourself and not use your pain as an excuse to hurt others. Thanks for being a voice for love and reason! I know it seems like even collectively we are but a whisper. Stay encouraged! Keep on speaking up and out.

  18. Sorry. I too am late to this. I found this great post by doing a google search for “spiritual abuse in the churches.”
    You are right on target!

    I have been “infected” and “affected” with the demented notions of so-called “pastoral authority” to the point where I just couldn’t take it any more. I recently began the website:

    http://www.wickedshepherds.com

    Specific names and places are mentioned; nonetheless, these evils are practiced world-wide! One of the tools (which you alluded to) that these spiritual monsters use is the marriage institution. “Counseling” a spouse to separate or divorce from their mate when they “go against church policy” or the “pastor” is rampant.

    “What God has joined together, let not man put asunder” is spit upon by many in “church leadership.”

    Ken

  19. Worship interrupted and trumpets for a pastor! That is ridiculous, but though I laughed it is far from funny. There is way too much spiritual abuse going on – from extreme to mild forms in various settings. Touch not my anointed though, eh?

    I was in Youth With A Mission – YWAM, an abusive pentecostal missionary organisation, and had to submit even when other Christian leaders were wrong and sinned against me because ‘God would deal with the leader’, it was my job to obey them regardless as that is what God commanded me….even if they told me to jump off a cliff. For rebuking someone for abusing me and screaming in my face when I was sick, I was almost kicked out of YWAM – I had to grovel to the leader to stay and apologise for telling her she was wrong when she was wrong – but wish now I had left the heretical abusers.

    A local assemblies of God minister – whose new power has gone to his head – said that I must submit to him – and by submit to him – do everything he asked and not speak out even when he was wrong and unscriptural and sinful – and by not submitting (in this unscriptural way) I was being rebellious and divisive blah blah blah. This was after, by the way he and another ‘leader’ had almost ripped my back apart in a phsycial assault (I am not kidding) in front of the whole congregation – and then lied to the church and slandered me. He mentioned the usual twisted scriptures about submission like the one in Romans, and I asked him that as it says about submitting to kings and authorities too, that if it meant as he said it did, were the Christians in Nazi Germany right to submit to the Nazis. He said YES!!!!!!! Power eh? Crazy.

  20. Welcome Ken and endtimes…

    Ken sorry to hear of your experience. I stopped by the site and will be back again. God be with you.

    Endtimes…

    What a foolish answer! I can’t believe He said YES!!!! All I can say is pride come before a fall…

    thanks for stopping by.

  21. After 16 years in ministry I have been on a similar journey. I am presently unplugged (as you put it)and initially I had the same idea. Small church, home church, this was the direction I was heading in, and still may.

    I am presently taking the theology program from reclaiming the mind and I highly suggest that you all do this as a group.

    I do have question about the five fold and believe that pastoring (training)can be done without lording over people. We are specifically told not to do that I agree. I have asked the same question teaching to no end and the tithe argument in so clear. So in many things we agree.

    I can not however totally dismiss the church past. I find that there is value in what the body has done in days gone by. So I find myself seeking away to be unplugged yet connected.

  22. Pastor Williams,
    You have not gone too far and you have not said too much. There is still more that needs to be said. And it is time for us (who are truly standing for Christ) to get things back in BIBLICAL order.
    I’m sharing this with a few others who feel the same way. And I just want to give thanks to God for you and for your prevailing opinion which was very beneficial in helping me to become TRULY FREE (bias in georgia).
    What’s that song:
    I’m free, Praise the Lord, I’m free
    No longer bound, No more chains holding me
    My soul is resting, It’s just a blessing
    Praise the Lord!! Hallelujah!! I’m Free!!
    (and now working diligently in the gifts and ministry that God has called me to)
    Thank you Sir and may God continually bless you, your family and your ministry. Agape.

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  24. That is exactly what I am experiencing now. I got saved several years ago and have been a member at my current church for 6 years. I have not had any prior in depth experience with the various roles of church authorities. I had begun to look to my Pastor as having to always run things by him to get his opinion. The Lord began to deal with me and showed me that no one deserved that position of being put on a pedestal but Him. So I began to walk on my own. The Pastor would literally not deal with me when I did not obey what he said I should do. He and his wife would ostracize me from their attention and show other people around me attention, so that I could see. It bothered me because my family had always treated me the same way. If I wanted approval and acceptance, I had to do what they said or they ignored me. So, because I didn’t understand(and still really not sure), how I was supposed to respond to them as leaders, I began to just put all my heart, soul, and attention into God. Well, I began to get comments insinutated towards me over the pulpit. God revealed to me some things about the Pastor and his wife, showing me that they are human like me, with faults and should be prayed for and that I should love them unconditionally despite what they were doing. It’s hard but I constantly press to obey. I don’t know what to do because it seems like unless I fall into what they want me to do, then they will not use the gifts that God has given me, for the church. The Pastor has also not counseled with me or really spoke to me in the last 9 or 10 months. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have been praying to ask God to release me from there to move on. Is this even necessary? I feel sometimes at such a disadvantage because everyone in my church has been raised from childhood in a similar setting but I have no such foundation.

  25. I TOO still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/

  26. I believe the problem is especially in the black churches we we tend to trust very easily… Many people read the bible and not study it. We tend to take the word of of the pastor without going home and study it our selves… This is not a game your eternal soul is at stake.. I heard another pastor from another race say don’t let your pastor send you to Hell… Take full responsibility for your own wellbeing… In a lot churches their is a lot of converts and very little disciples as commanded in the Word. We run to conference to conference instead of sitting at Jesus feet and wait on Him to say what He wants done in His church.. being a leader in the church is not something to just take lightly… Hell will be a lot hotter if you lead God’s people astray… Pray hard and often for the leaders…. Please makes sure you check everything with the Word of God….

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